AN IMMEDIATE BLOG SWARM/STORM NEEDED...
UNIVERSITY BANS SUPPORT FOR THE TROOPS: A truly disgusting policy is being carried out at the University of Oregon.
Magnetic Yellow Ribbons that say "Support The Troops" have been surreptitiously banned by the administration at the University of Oregon.
The origin of the policy was a complaint from a fellow employee and the claim was that the sticker was in fact a "political statement".
The employee who had the magnetic ribbons had put them on his vehicle months previous - but Friday a university employee complained.
So let's review...
1. University employees at the University of Oregon are not allowed to support the troops who defend those employees' freedoms and the security they live under.
2. "Supporting the troops" is deemed a political statement...so much for the "We all support the troops" talking points.
3. Even if this WAS political expression - university employees are not allowed to express themselves politically? (Can Instapundit weigh in on the legalities of University Campus political expression?)
Since when did the Bill of Rights have to undergo perusal and permission of the Administration of the University of Oregon?
I think a blog swarm/storm on this should be formed immediately.
The very least we Americans should be allowed to do is to support those who fight and too many times die to allow the rest of us to live free...
I put up the University President's phone number and email here.
And today I will be devoting significant portions or airtime to this issue...
Just more proof that Democrats are anti-military
Posted by: Paul at January 24, 2005 10:47 AM
Any institute of higher education that espouses such a policy should cease to be. The way to do that is for all thinking people to immediately withdraw their support. Students who hold the freedom of speech higher than the university's "speech codes" should stop going to class. Teachers who teach in such an institution should immediately tender their resignations, and refuse to be associated with such an "anti-reason" institution. Alumni should stop giving money. Townspeople should stop patronizing the place.
People don't realize how powerful they are. And too often, these sanctimonious institutions don't realize how vulnerable they are.
The diploma from such an institution is worthless. Students, faculty, alumni, and townsfolk who hold reason dear should recognize that fact, and - through willful inattention - let it die the death it deserves. No violence necessary. No protests, no mobs filling the streets. Just walk away. Simply "Shrug," as Ayn Rand might have said.
Posted by: Dan
at January 24, 2005 10:57 AM
That is disgusting! Oregon's not a "Blue" state it's a "pinko" state and in fact, an enemy of the Republic. On the other hand, it's about what one would expect from the People's Republic of Oregon.
Posted by: Richard Platt at January 24, 2005 11:18 AM
I think this policy is disgusting and more proof that the left has no idea how the rest of this country feels. I come from the bluest of the blue states - NYC and firmly believe that the left has completely lost touch with mainstream America, and this is just one more example of it. This is plain awful.
Thank you
Alex Livak
Posted by: Alex at January 24, 2005 11:40 AM
It seems that a lawsuit forcing the University to give up all Federal funding is in order, since the institution is suppressing First Ammendment rights.
"Higher" learning? I don't think so.
Posted by: DebateRight
at January 24, 2005 11:46 AM
To the ONE person who complained....close your eyes when walking past a vehicle with a support our troops sticker. This is one college my son will be NOT looking to attend within the next few years.
Posted by: Michelle N at January 24, 2005 11:52 AM
So is the U.S. FLAG ON FIRETRUCKS, ALL ACROSS THE NATION A POLITICAL STATEMENT? University of Oregon's ruling regarding, Support Our
Troops sticker is a disgrace to all of America, and I am SURE THE OSAMA BIN LADEN TERROR THUGS ARE CHEERING!!!
Posted by: Intensive Care at January 24, 2005 12:39 PM
This is just a sad day for Freedom Of Speech and America. Flight back now!!!
Posted by: Rich at January 24, 2005 12:43 PM
This is generally a non-story. This ban is for University Owned Vehicles only... not personal vehicles. The only thing to complain about is if anything else has been allowed to be placed on them. I work for a state government... I know I can't put ANYTHING on them.
End of story.. lets find something more productive to do.
Posted by: Troll
at January 24, 2005 12:51 PM
Not like when that cop couldn't put something on his OWN vehicle.. that was rediculous.
Posted by: Troll
at January 24, 2005 12:52 PM
So whats new? Many universities ban ROTC and the military services seeking enlistees on campus.
(now drifting down to high schools)
These same bozos like to point out that the military service does not have university grads in their ranks. No wonder when the professors are anti-USA
Posted by: usnavy1946 at January 24, 2005 01:06 PM
What if the vehicle with the 'offensive' Support Our Troops magnet, also had a Kerry/Edwards bumper sticker? Maybe they would cancel each other out.
Posted by: Patrick A. at January 24, 2005 01:44 PM
This just goes to show that the Dim-o-crats detest the military.
Posted by: Make War Not Appease at January 24, 2005 01:48 PM
I emailed the U of O President and phoned him. I think everyone should. I agree with Paul, "it just proves the left is ANTI-MILITARY".
Republicans believe in peace through strength, Dems believe in peace through apeasement. These cowards are putting this country in danger.
I will not send anymore money to that University! I hope they get a hailstorm of complaints. A support the troops magnet is like a flag. Only a wimpy lying terrorist supporting, liberal would call it political.
Posted by: Richard Davis at January 24, 2005 02:13 PM
Here are portions of the letter I sent:
I feel I must protest in the strongest possible terms your disreagard for the servicemen and women of this country. Banning the "Support Our Troops" magnets from vehicles on campus is tantamount to censorship. These strong-armed tactics are usually reserved only for people who cannot effectively argue thier point without being humiliated because their position is senseless and irresponsible.
I am a soldier who served two tours of duty in Iraq. I am proud of the service I rendered to our country. OUR country, President Frohnmayer. The magnets are not a political statement, sir. The simple truth is, we are a nation at war. As such, the fact that you would ban statements of support of the very people who place their lives in jeopardy every day so you can continue to enjoy the freedoms our Nation offer you is completely beyond me.
Sir, please consider revolking this ban. What one person considers a political statement is simply not a true representation of the issue. Soldiers fight and die in wars we collectively support or oppose. It is not the fault of the Soldier. We do not make policy; we act in accordance with law as the protectors of this Nation's Constitution.
Posted by: Dan at January 24, 2005 02:21 PM
E-Mail the president of the University of Oregon and demand he reverse this policy!!
pres@oregon.uoregon.edu
Posted by: The American Patriot
at January 24, 2005 02:27 PM
Okay, I'll reluctantly support the university's "no signs of any kind on campus vehicles" policy, for to allow one--however admirable--is to have to allow all.
However, it seems that the misstep is the "political statement" specification. Why couldn't the admin just say that supporting the troops was patriotic, not political?
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at January 24, 2005 02:45 PM
Yet more proof (this blog) that right wing wackos think their opinion and support are the only ones that matter. "No institution has the right to any policies that differ from what we think is patriotic!" is the Republican lead future of this country. Oy vey. Those ribons have been perverted by the righties as something they can proudly wave as sign of their patriotism while they continue to spout bile and hatred at anyone different from them. I'm support your support of the troops doesn't extend to those that aren't Christians and don't oppose abortion. I think there are far bigger concerns in this country (most of those concerns created by Mr. Bush) that warrant instant action and much more attention than a few thousand people not allowed to plaster silly ribbons on their vehicles. Stop pretending you care and actually get involved with the people of this country and do something FOR the country instead of trying to condemn half of the country because they have different opinions than you do.
Posted by: averagejoe at January 24, 2005 03:01 PM
I wrote an email to the President of the University and this is his response:
Thank you for your e-mail. Perhaps this statement from our Vice President for Administration who made this decision will clarify the approach the University of Oregon, as a state agency, is taking.
"Government vehicles in this state have never been allowed to exhibit items of personal expression. State employees are free to use their personal vehicles for statements of all types on university campuses and elsewhere. This distinction between a state vehicle and a personal vehicle is very important."
Sincerely,
Dave Frohnmayer
Dave Frohnmayer
President
University of Oregon
phone: (541) 346-3036
fax: (541) 346-3017
pres@uoregon.edu
A bit of a joke, no?
Posted by: Michael at January 24, 2005 03:13 PM
While traveling from New Jersey to Florida for Christmas, my wife noticed some of these ribbons where the center was shaped like a cross instead of an inverted teardrop. Instead of saying 'Support Our Troops', these said 'Pray For Our Troops'. I'd recommend using these instead. You can tweak the liberals two ways at once.
Posted by: Thomas Pfau at January 24, 2005 03:41 PM
Yet more proof (this blog) that right wing wackos think their opinion and support are the only ones that matter.
Would calling people who disagree with your screwball view of the world "right wing wackos" be an example of your tolerance for others? Or are you just a non-right wing wacko?
"No institution has the right to any policies that differ from what we think is patriotic!"
We are voicing our disgust with a university that is exhibiting unpatriotic behavior and trampling on the first amendment of the US Constitution. We are not saying they can't do what they've done, we just condemn it. Not allowing someone to display a magnetic emblem that says "Support Our Troops", seems pretty unpatriotic to me - but not surprising for that particular denizen of Socialists and Communists. They don't support our troops - they hope they die in large numbers so they can make a political point. That is clearly unpatriotic. They brag about how none of their graduates serve in the military. That seems unpatriotic to me, considering that the same military that protects their liberties is spat upon by the administration, faculty, and student body of that "institution," all the while begging for federal funds. I hope the congress decides to cut off all federal funds to those creeps. They don't want anything to do with the US Government, fine, give back the money.
is the Republican lead future of this country. Oy vey.
Is English a second language for you? Or perhaps you're one of the graduates of the University of Oregon and that's the best you can do.
Those ribons have been perverted by the righties as something they can proudly wave as sign of their patriotism while they continue to spout bile and hatred at anyone different from them.
You can pervert it too so that you can proudly wave it as a sign of your patriotism - just pretend it is red with a hammer and sickle on it.
I'm support your support of the troops doesn't extend to those that aren't Christians and don't oppose abortion.
More incoherent babble from a "sophisticate?"
I think there are far bigger concerns in this country
Like what, increasing your free methadone treatments and the local street clinic? Clean needles for you? More free condoms? What more could you want?
(most of those concerns created by Mr. Bush)
That would be President Bush to you, punk.
that warrant instant action and much more attention
You mean instantaneous, split-second, lightning-fast action? Or do you mean action of the kind you probably get hanging around the Greyhound Bus Depot on a Saturday night?
than a few thousand people not allowed to plaster silly ribbons on their vehicles.
Who cares about their first amendment rights, right? Its just a piece of paper, right?
Stop pretending you care and actually get involved with the people
We care alright, and you know we do. See, that's precisely what makes you babble on in such an incoherent way with so much hate and vitriol, you can't stand the fact that we do care. Too bad, we do. When you talk about getting involved with the people do you mean like Slick Willie got involved with Monica? Or like Ted 'the whale' Kennedy got involved with Mary Jo? Involved how, exactly?
...and do something FOR the country instead of trying to condemn half of the country because they have different opinions than you do.
We've done plenty. We're doing plenty right now. We're going to do even more as time goes by. BTW: we are not trying to condemn half the country - the whole country is fine. It is lunatics like you we condemn, and we aren't trying to condemn you - we do. If this batch of nonsense you just posted is any example of your "opinions", you not only deserve to be condemned but you have earned our eternal contempt.
Posted by: Scaramonga
at January 24, 2005 04:24 PM
Another Hall of Fame entry from Scar! BZ my friend! You are the best!
belowaveragejoe thinks WE turned a "Support the Troops" ribbon into the face of the republican party. He's so out of tune. We just support the troops and we don't undermine their mission. It was all he could do to not say, "I hate the military" in his post.
Posted by: Richard Davis at January 24, 2005 06:26 PM
"No institution has the right to any policies that differ from what we think is patriotic!" is the Republican lead future of this country.
No one said they CANNOT do what they did, just that they don't agree with it.
Why is it you "liberals" who shout the loudest about freedom of speech, are also the most hateful and bitter whenever someone uses that freedom to state a point of view different than yours?
People are not allowed to be angry about positions? Only you are allowed to be angry?
Yeah, you make a lot of sense.
spout bile and hatred at anyone different from them
Like you just did?
condemn half of the country because they have different opinions than you do.
Again, like you just did?
Posted by: PlutosDad
at January 24, 2005 06:30 PM
Scaramonga,
Well said. If I could give you a high five, I would after that beautiful post. And 'averagejoe', may I suggest you change your name to 'antimilitaryjoe' you pathetic litte critter.
Posted by: Make War Not Appease at January 24, 2005 06:41 PM
Outstanding Scar.
Hey! hatethemilitaryandunpatroticjoe, go crawl back to your hole.
Posted by: Geo
at January 24, 2005 07:37 PM
Bravo Zulu - how long it has been since I have heard that old Navy phrase! Thanks all.
Posted by: Scaramonga
at January 24, 2005 08:33 PM
Disgusting and offensive, but what can you expect from a bunch of Ducks!
Posted by: Dan Evans Republican at January 25, 2005 04:44 PM
My son is in the national guard,and is in Iraq. I am VERY PROUD of him for what he is doing for his country.And i am OUTRAGED by what the univeristy of oregon is doing.My son and all the women and men ,are putting there LIVES ,on the line for them.And this is the THANKS they get.
Posted by: Proud Mom at April 11, 2005 11:07 PM







