May 16, 2005
Douglas MacArthur, Out; Oprah Winfrey, In

Professor Bainbridge takes the Discovery Channel's Greatest American program to task for, well, absurdity. On the list is Oprah Winfrey, Brett Favre (please, no Cheesehead complaints here...great QB, NOT one of the all-time greatest Americans, ok?), Donald Trump, Ellen Degeneres (!?!?!), Hugh Hefner. It seems that the list was created by asking people to nominate the greatest American, and the resultant 100 are those who got the most votes. There are some great Americans on the list (Abraham Lincoln, Mark Twain, Ronald Reagan, eg), but I find is startling by both who is on it, and who is off.

As Bainbridge points out, some of the people who didn't make the list are: John Adams, U S Grant, Thurgood Marshall, Daniel Webster...and one Bainbridge didn't notice, Douglas MacArthur. Just as a reminder, Douglas MacArthur, on a military shoe-string, defeated the Japanese in the south Pacific, used our occupation of Japan as a means of turning foe into friend, smashed the North Korean communists at Inchon and taught us that, in war, there is no substitute for victory. Not on the list. Oprah is.

I was writing a couple days ago about how little we know these days of our own past. I never suspected we were this ignorant, as a people, of our own history. Nothing wrong with Oprah, but 50 years from now she'll be dead and forgotten...Douglas MacArthur will be learned of and studied as long as human beings exist.

Posted by Mark Noonan on May 16, 2005 05:52 AM


Comments

As with anything else in which people get to vote, this is simply a popularity contest, nothing more. The only way we would probably get a comprehensive list of the 100 greatest Americans would be if a panel was put together containing an equal amount of liberals and conservatives. And even then, one would have to make sure they were intellectually honest people.

Here's an idea though. In light of this ridiculous list, why doesn't the blogosphere conduct of poll of its own, similar to this one? If I remember correctly, people voted by providing a Top 5 list. It would take a while to compile the results, especially if many different blogs had to combine results to give a final tally, but it would be quite an interesting endeavor.

Posted by: MICHAEL in MI [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 06:06 AM


It's a stupid popularity poll. It is unscientific and it measures nothing. It indicates nothing. It means nothing. Well, it does mean some bloggers have little of importance to blog about. That's all it means.

Posted by: Scaramonga [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 07:27 AM


Scar,

Hey, who knew the Newsweek story would break last night?

But, honestly, I think it is appalling that a man like Douglas MacArthur doesn't make the top 100 list...I know it is unscientific, but it also illustrates the ignorance of our own past prevalent in the United States these days.

Posted by: Mark Noonan [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 01:52 PM


I know it is unscientific, but it also illustrates the ignorance of our own past prevalent in the United States these days.

Come on, Mark. If it is unscientific, then it doesn't tell us anything more than the fact that mouth-breathers are the ones attracted to such nonsense.

That doesn't mean that people today aren't ignorant of their heritage or history - they are. We can thank a liberal-controlled public education system for that. They rewrite history to fit their PC memes making past heroes into villains, evil people into heroes, and minimizing great accomplishments. Their more "efficient" tactics free them up to spend more time to teach the proper way to put on a condom or where a minor girl can go to get a free abortion - without her parents' permission or knowledge.

My father and father-in-law both fought in WWII. This great battle for the free world's survival is now being rewritten and recast as our fault and we are being written into the new "history" books as the bad guys. My father must be turning in his grave. My father-in-law, who is still alive, is just disgusted and wonders why so many gave so much for such ingrates. I don't blame him, but I do tell him, "now you know how I feel about the Viet Nam war." That one, too, is being re-cast as a great military defeat of the world's most powerful military by a bunch of rag-tag insurgents. And of course, those of us who served are still being characterized as "baby killers."

A recent poll (scientific) conducted in South Korea, a nation we saved from certain destruction by the North Koreans in the '50's (another war my father fought in), came out to say that over 50 percent of the South Koreans think higher of the Chinese and North Koreans that they do of us. There's a scientific truth for you.

BTW: Bill Quick over at Daily Pundit was blowing a gasket over that stupid popularity poll too, so it wasn't just you.

Posted by: Scaramonga [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2005 03:50 PM